Wednesday, January 9, 2019

Guest Post: My Time with a True Detective

C.S. is back with another Guest Post for Revolvers Only! Last April, he sent me a write up which became Competing with the Smith & Wesson Model 66-8. That post was very well received, so I asked him to start working on another!  This review details his experiences with a Colt Detective Special. I am more than happy to share his work with everyone here on Revolvers Only. Enjoy!

-FCR 

My Time with a True Detective

  
The full name of course is the Colt Detective Special if you’re not into the whole brevity thing.
This model came off the line in 1957 and sports aftermarket grips to preserve the older originals.
  
The most desired features in a carry gun (light weight, easily concealed, comfortable to carry) are the features that make it a pain to shoot. Practicing with a carry gun, especially a sub nosed revolver, is a chore — and I’m not afraid to admit it.

However, there is an exception: My Colt Detective. While it’s easily categorized as a carry gun or a “BUG”, it is still a blast to shoot. No one chooses a carry gun because it’s cool but this gun makes me nostalgic for a time that only existed in Hollywood movies. The Colt Detective is the gun you see pulled on good guy and scum alike for “talking wise” or staring at your favorite girl's gams. You expect to see the Colt Detective held by a fedora wearing Humphrey Bogart or flopping around in the shoulder holster of some overweight police captain yelling at a cop who plays by his own rules.

Alright, you get it. I think it’s cool. But does that make it a pleasure to shoot? Well, no. All coolness aside it is still a fun gun to shoot. Here’s why: a grown man can fully grip the Colt Detective and its full steel frame tames the recoil of even the hottest 38 special loads. Despite the 2 inch barrel groupings of 6 will easily shoot “minute of soup can lid” at 12 yards for those familiar with snub noses. The gun’s action, worn in after over 60 years of use, makes for a smooth double action pull and a single action pull similar to the click of a mouse. I don’t want to oversell it but I’ve never had the desire or ability to shoot 500 rounds in a single session with a snub nose until I shot this Colt Detective.

Despite my glowing endorsement this was not an easy horse to tame (pun intended). When first shooting this revolver it had a nasty habit of putting the group in the left shoulder of a silhouette when aiming for center mass. For an embarrassingly long time my father and I could not understand why this was; it wasn’t until I was taking a brass brush to the crown that I noticed that this revolver had a terrible cant! It was nearly imperceptible when looking down the sights but when looking down the unloaded business end the problem was as plain as day.

Unless I’m fighting pirates, specifically the parrots that sit on the left shoulder of a pirate,
 I need a better gun.
 
My father called up Colt to see if it could be repaired and he learned that apparently when a gun gets to a certain age, Colt will not readily accept the gun to repair. They will however allow you to mail a letter requesting an estimate, then wait for a letter from Colt for permission to mail the gun, mail the gun, then wait for an estimate by mail. Even as a retired man my father didn’t have that time to waste. There was talk of “just selling the damn thing” as we couldn’t take it to the gunsmith down the road. Unfortunately, my father passed before he got an opportunity to either repair or sell the Detective. I made it a priority to see that my father’s last project gun would reach its logical conclusion.
  
The severe cant in the barrel couldn’t be seen when aiming but from these angles it’s clear as day.
  
I reached out to Frank Glen who, if you’re reading this blog, know is one of the best Colt revolver ‘smiths in the world. I sent it off to his workshop. Once it arrived, he also noticed the timing was a bit off as well. The total repair was $245 (including return shipping) which isn’t terrible for two extensive repairs on an antique that no one else wanted to take a look at.

Once I had the gun back, I was eager to see if those tight groups the revolver is capable of would land in the bull when I actually aimed at the bull. I packed my bag with some 130 grain American Eagle FMJ and some Atlanta Arms 148 grain plated wadcutters. 

These plated wadcutters leave a very satisfying hole in paper targets.
The mild recoil, even in a snub nose, make these go down smooth

I put the target out to 12 yards and shot two cylinder’s worth of the 148 wadcutters in double action. 11/12 of the shots stayed in the 9 ring, with the flyer being the fault of the shooter, it was quite clear that the revolver was back into fighting shape.

That’s a lot better.
 
After boring out the 9 ring of my target with a box of 50 rounds, I brought out my timer to see how well I could shoot it under the stress of time. I brought the target into a more realistic 7 yards and ran what I’ll euphemistically refer to as a “‘Prepared’ Bill Drill”. The drill is like a normal bill drill but you begin with sights on target and the first shot on single action. I put 6 aimed shots in a 3.75 inch group in 7.75 seconds. Quite embarrassing when you consider I can draw and shoot six rounds from my ICORE gun in less than half that time. 

I ran a second Bill Drill, still at 7 yards, but at a low ready, double action only. Running this drill I was able to put the six rounds in a ~4 inch group in 4.78 seconds. Again, not perfection but much more acceptable. (As a side note, if you’re running a IDPA/USPSA/ICORE type Bill Drill and you’re reacquiring the sights in between shots like I just described, you’re not performing the drill correctly).

The mirror finish on the bluing certainly gives weight to the belief that
“they don’t make ‘em like that anyone.”

As much as I enjoy shooting the Colt Detective, it’s not going find itself in my carry gun rotation. Ignoring the fact that it’s an antique, it’s much too heavy to carry in the muggy South. Additionally, while it still has 20% more capacity than most snub nose revolvers, I can carry a whole lot more with modern carry guns. Now, if I were to start up my own detective agency...

-C.S.


I hope everyone appreciated this quick review of the Colt Detective Special! In addition to running local ICORE matches, C.S. is in the midst of his own wedding planning. If this post gets as many likes as the last one, I'll try to talk him into another one later this year. Thanks for reading!

As always, if you have any suggestions for future posts or would like to share your experience on the current topic please post below!

Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Rogers Enhanced Ruger LCR Grip

 

Over the course of the last weekend of September, I attended the Pat Rodgers Memorial Revolver Round Up hosted by Hardwired Tactical Shooting in Carrollton, Texas. The 2018 course focused on snub nosed revolvers and I contacted several companies for products designed with the Ruger LCR in mind for test and evaluation. HolsterOps responded to my request for a Rogers Enhanced LCR Grip and quickly shipped one for review!

In addition to the two days of coursework, I was also able to run these grips in a local match. At the beginning of December, one of the local clubs hosted an IDPA BUG (Back Up Gun) Match. This division is restricted to five shot revolvers that are under 22 ounces, and fit into the test box (6 1/2'' X 4 5/8'' X 1 3/8''). Unfortunately, these grips are a bit too large for the box. For range use and concealed carry, these grips are awesome!


An Improved Design


The Rogers Enhanced Ruger LCR Grip was designed to improve on the factory issued model. HolsterOps opted for a material change and constructed the grips out of hard plastic rather than softer rubber. Fabric often clings to rubber, which can be bad for concealed carry as it can reveal the firearm. The smooth material prevents any snags, but the side panels are textured to reduce the revolver from shift in hand under recoil.

Aside from the material change, the most noticeable difference is in length. The dimensions are only slightly larger than the original grips, but do allow for the full grip. Palm swells are also present to fill the hand and provide a more complete grasp of the grips. Enlarging the stocks on a revolver can lead to concealment issues; however, in my experience, the size does not make the LCR any less concealable than the the standard rubber grips.  


Grip Comparison



The Ruger LCR ships from the factory with Hogue Tamer grips. Tamers feature a squishy recoil pad positioned under the web of the shooting hand to soften recoil. Shooters with averaged sized hands can squeeze two fingers on these rubber grips. Out of the box these are very comfortable, but I don't particularly like finger grooves.


I'm not super fond of the factory LCR grips because of the finger grooves, so I purchased a second set for the Ruger LCR. The Hogue Tamer Bantam Boot grips don't have the grooves and are very concealable. The only negative is allow a one and three quarter finger grip...if you have normal sized hands. Folks with larger hands might only get a finger and a half. On the plus side, I think the boot grips would be great on the Ruger LCR .22LR/.22WMR models.



Compared to both the factory and Hogue Bantam grips, the Rogers grips allow for a full three finger grip. A larger gripping area allows most shooters to fire faster and more accurately. The side panel texturing and palm swell also provide more contact with the stock, providing a more stable grip. 

 

Shooting Impressions



I'll be honest, when I first popped the Rogers Enhanced Ruger LCR Grips out of the box, I was worried they would be very uncomfortable to shoot. The hard material seemed like it would beat up my hands. After two days of coursework and an IDPA match, I can say that this is not the case with .38 Special ammunition. While .38 Special + P ammo is also controllable with a bit more effort, I'm not willing to fire .357 Magnum out of a 17 ounce revolver.

The slight palm swell of the grip fills your hand so recoil translates a bit differently. The added length also allows the third finger to rest on the grips and assist in recoil mitigation. The texture on the side provides additional control without being to rough. In my opinion, the features of the Rogers Enhanced positively improve the shooting experience of the Ruger LCR!


Speed Loader Fitment



Unlike automatics, revolvers have the ability to accept different grip shapes. Not all grips are relieved to fit different loading devices. In the previous two posts, two different LCR speed loaders have been showcased: the 5Star Firearms J2-357/38 and the Speed Beez LCR38-05. Thankfully, the Rogers grips are recessed to allow both loaders function without issue! 

 

Conclusions


The Rogers Enhanced LCR Grip is a great upgrade for the Ruger LCR. The slightly increased size over the factory option allows for better control without influencing concealability of the  revolver. These are now my preferred grips for the LCR and I don't plan on changing any time soon. I'm glad the match director let me shoot the IDPA BUG match with my these grips, even if they don't quite fit in the box. I guess I'll have to return to the stock grips for future matches, but we'll see.

I am sad to report that the grips are currently unavailable. The direct link to the product page is missing from the website as of this post. If enough people show interest, maybe the company will produce them again. Please visit the HolsterOps website for their other great products and to one of these grips when they are in stock!

As always, if you have any suggestions for future posts or would like to share your experience on the current topic please post below!

Wednesday, December 5, 2018

Speed Beez Speed Loaders and Carriers

Over the course of the last weekend of September, I attended the Pat Rodgers Memorial Revolver Round Up hosted by Hardwired Tactical Shooting in Carrollton, Texas. The 2018 course focused on snub nosed revolvers. In anticipation of the event, I reached out to several companies for products designed with the Ruger LCR in mind. Speed Beez answered my request and sent both a speed loader and a matching kydex carrier for test and evaluation. 

In addition to my experiences at the course, I was also able to do a bit more testing at a local match. Last weekend, one of the local clubs hosted an IDPA BUG (Back Up Gun) Match. The current rules permit five shot revolvers under 22 ounces. Those requirements fit my Ruger LCR .357 perfectly AND a fellow shooter had a few extra Speed Beez loaders and carriers for me to borrow! After some challenging (but fun) days on the range, here are my thoughts on these two products.


Speed Loader



The Speed Beez Model LCR38-05 is designed for the five shot Ruger LCR. The loaders feature an aluminum construction with large brightly anodized handles. The bases are slightly relieved to mimic the cylinder and use an external spring to retain the loaded rounds. The handle rides on a guide that is under spring tension. The handles are milled with posts that push the rounds into the cylinder. In the case of center-fire ammunition, the posts contact the rim of the case to avoid ignition. The opposite is true in their rimfire speed loaders. Best of all, the loaders are manufactured in the USA!


Speed Loader Function



The Speed Beez speed loader design is intuitive in both the loading and reloading processes. Simply orient the rounds to the chambers and continue to push the handle until the rounds click in place. This requires a firm push to release the cases, but also prevents accidental release of the rounds. This system works well, especially in a competition environment. There is just enough tension in the external spring to hold the rounds securely in place while in a carrier; however, rounds can pop out if thrown into a pocket without protection. If you intend to carry these for self defense, make sure they are riding around in a carrier!


Speed Loader Performance


The range portions of the Revolver Round Up were shot on a concrete range. Over the course of that weekend, this loader was dropped at least a dozen times from waist height. Aside from a few dings and a little finish wear, the Speed Beez loaders continued to function. I also wanted to get the loaders a little dirty and found that opportunity at the BUG match. I dropped them into mud and sand during each  course of fire. I gave them a quick shake and loaded them up for the next stage. No problems over six stages. That's the sign of a good product!
  
Speed loader fitment can occasionally be an issue with certain models of grips/stock. When I first received the loader, I was a little worried about the speed loader clearance with my selected grip from Holster Ops. Thankfully, this proved to be a non issue with the precision milled base matching the cylinder exactly.


Kydex Speed Loader Carrier



In addition to the large variety of speed loaders in their inventory, Speed Beez also offers three sizes of speed loader pouches. I really appreciate it when companies provide quality accessories for their stuff. These carriers are manufactured by Comp-Tac and are constructed of injection molded plastic. Tension is adjustable and is controlled by the screw at the bottom. The model I received arrived at the perfect setting, no adjustments needed. These are a great design!


Conclusions



I really like Speed Beez products! This is certainly not my first (or last) experience with their gear. My Smith & Wesson 929 competition rig currently sports a Moon Clip Belt Rack and holster. I have also purchased several .22lr loaders and the associated loading blocks, so I expected the center-fire versions to function well.

The all aluminum construction of these speed loaders was a wise decision for Speed Beez, albeit an expensive one. Polymer loaders can be had for half or even a third the price with a hunting. While their loaders are a bit pricey, you are receiving precisely milled parts that are manufactured in the United States. Quality gear is expensive, but a worthwhile investment for the advantages this design offers. If I continue to shoot the LCR in IDPA BUG, I might need a few more loaders and carriers. Speed Beez, any chance you could manufacture a double speed loader carrier for IDPA? 

If you are in need of a speed loader, loading block, or other revolver gear then please visit their website for more information. I know I'll be making another order soon! 

As always, if you have any suggestions for future posts or would like to share your experience on the current topic please post below!

Wednesday, November 28, 2018

5 Star Firearms Speed Loaders and Accessories

Over the course of the last weekend of September, I attended the Pat Rodgers Memorial Revolver Round Up hosted by Hardwired Tactical Shooting in Carrollton, Texas. The 2018 course focused on snub nosed revolvers. In anticipation of the event, I reached out to several companies for products designed with the Ruger LCR in mind. 5 Star Firearms responded to my request immediately and graciously sent a care package with several LCR accessories my way. Here are some of my thoughts regarding the speed loaders, kydex speed loader carrier, and two different loading blocks.


Speed Loaders 




Prior to receiving the 5 Star speed loaders, most of my LCR reloads were conducted with HKS Model 36 speed loaders. HKS loaders feature a plastic body and knurled handle that releases the rounds with a clockwise turn. I have encountered two issues using HKS loaders. First, the plastic body of the HKS contacts the stocks and does not allow the loader to completely line up with the cylinder. It often requires a little wiggling for the rounds to fall into place. Second, as a lefty, turning the knob clockwise often resulted in the speed loader rolling towards the gun and cluttering up the reload process.  In my opinion, 5 Star has addressed both of these issues.

No contact with the grip.

5 Star Firearms speed loaders are made entirely of aluminum rather than plastic. Model J2-357/38 are designed to fit the slightly smaller Ruger LCR cylinder. As you can see in the picture above, the loader body does not contact my preferred grips during the loading process. Additionally, these loaders feature a counter clockwise turn to release the rounds.  As a lefty, activating the knob also send the loaders to the left and away from the revolver. I think both of these features are huge improvements to the turn release speed loader design! While I used other loading devices during each block of instruction, the 5 Star speed loaders quickly became my most frequently used device.


Speed Loaders Performance



Range work at the 2018 Revolver Round Up was conducted on a concrete bay rather than dirt or fluffy grass. How did the 5 Star Firearms speed loaders hold up to two days of repeated drops onto hard surface? Pretty well. As you can see in the photos above, The concrete left some dings on the aluminium loaders. Despite this abuse, all four devices continue to function flawlessly. I was a little bummed the concrete marred the red anodizing, but now the loaders have character and I know they can stand up to hard use!

 

Speed Loader Carrier



5 Star Firearms also offers the Kydex Speed Loader Carrier for the J2-357/38. I was most excited about this product as finding speed loaders for certain models can be challenging, but finding kydex carriers can be next impossible! 5 Star must have recognized this and manufactured a carrier for what I would guess is their most popular device. The clip is  low profile and reversible to make inside the waistband carry comfortable...especially at the center-line position. I really like this carrier and this has been riding around on my belt since the course.


Range Stand and Bedside Block

  

5 Star Firearms also included a Range Stand and a Bedside Block to make reloading between strings of fire much faster. Simply load the bases with rounds, load the speed loaders, and then top off the bases with additional rounds for future use. Both bases are precisely milled to fit the footprint of the speed loader, so the speed loaders fit over the rounds perfectly.

The Range Stand is designed to hold both your revolver, prepared loaders, and extra rounds. The base is wide and heavy enough to hold the wheel gun at the ready between strings of fire. At the time of this post, the Range Stand is only available in the natural finish, but that finish sure is shiny! The theory behind the bedside block is simple; the block is a great way to have spare ammunition loaded and accessible on your nightstand, should you need it. The bedside block can also be anodized in the same finishes as the speed loaders. 


Conclusions


5 Star Firearms produces some fantastic accessories, particularly for the Ruger LCR. The speed loaders performed well in a semi-stressful environment and after taking a bit of abuse. I plan to continue carrying a red 5 Star J2 in their kydex speed loader carrier. The option to color the aluminum loaders is really neat. If you are like me and would like to color code your gear for different firearms, the anodizing option might be exactly what you are looking for! 

Special thanks to Kim at 5 Star Firearms for sending me all of this gear to test at the 2018 Pat Rogers Revolver Round Up. The company also manufactures loaders and accessories for six, seven, and even eight shot revolver so if you are need of a quality turn release loader, please visit their website!

As always, if you have any suggestions for future posts or would like to share your experience on the current topic please post below!

Wednesday, September 26, 2018

Red Dot Sight Revolver Project: Leupold DeltaPoint Pro

Welcome to the first red dot sight evaluation of the Red Dot Sight Revolver Project! To view previous entries in this series please visit the Red Dot Sight Revolver Project pageThe Leupold DeltaPoint Pro is a popular miniature red dot sight. Several features have made it a popular choice for competition and self-defense roles. My primary use for this optics lies on the competition side of the fence. This is a very popular optic on the market, so I wanted to put it through my testing procedure. Here are some of my thoughts on this red dot sight!


DeltaPoint Pro



The DeltaPoint Pro is one of the largest red dots on the market. Perhaps the most notable feature is the optic's large window and shroud to protect the lens. This offers a very wide viewing range. I've heard many complaints regarding the size of red dot windows. This lens allows for very quick target acquisition and tracking. Leupold's lens treatment does not have the bluish tint present in other optics. While I really appreciate the more accurate colors, I did notice a bit of glare in bright sunlight. There are two different reticles available for the DPP: a 2.5 MOA dot and a 7.5 MOA triangle. I wasn't sure I would like the large triangle, so the model I selected featured the smaller dot.

The optic body is very tall to accommodate the top mounted battery compartment. Several optics require removal from the mount to swap the battery, but the DPP's design does not. Changing the CR 1632 battery is quick and easy with the hinged door. The latch requires a deliberate action to open, so I can't imagine the gate popping open of it's own accord. The adjustment button is located on top of the battery door. Pressing the button turns the optic on and adjusts brightness in a linear fashion: all the way up then all the way down. I would have preferred two smaller buttons, but I understand why a single button was used. Before proceeding to my test results, I would like to discuss some of the ways the optic can be mounted to a handgun.


Mounting Options


Allchin Gun Parts


Allchin Gun Parts Mini STS Scope Mounts are available for  several optics for both Smith & Wesson and Ruger revolvers. This model is compatible with both the Leupold DeltaPoint Pro and Sig Romeo 3. Each mount ships with two alignment pins, two optics screws, and three frame screws to securely mount the optic to the pre-drill S&W frames. These are available in clear and black anodized finishes for $45.00 - $55.00. These mounts have not officially launched, but should be available soon and if you are a Ruger fan, a compatible mount is also in the development!

Outerimpact M.R.A


While milling slides for optics is preferred by many shooters, the Outerimpact M.R.A offers a non-permanent solution to mounting several optics on an OEM slide via the rear sight dovetail. The M.R.A ships with a plethora of screws to mount the plate to the slide and various optics to the plate. The M.R.A. is a great way to test optics before committing to slide milling. The DeltaPoint Pro may seem to sit very high on the slide, but this did not hamper shooting in any way. These are available for $50.00 and are a great way to try an optic on your automatic!
  
Raptor Engineering

  
Raptor Engineering offers several mounts for Smith & Wesson, Ruger, and Freedom Arms revolvers. Raptor mounts are very low profile and include three screws to mount to pre-drilled S&W K/L/N frames. Due to the low profile nature of the mount, alternative screw may also be include if the optic's factory screws are too long. These are available in a clear anodized finish for $40.oo. 

Glock M.O.S

  
The Glock M.O.S system is available on several Gen 4 and Gen 5 Glock models. The slide is milled wide to allow for several optics to be mounted. Four plates are included to fit the most popular optics on the market. The DeltaPoint Pro requires installation of Plate 04. This is a great way to see if a slide mounted optic is for you! If you decided you don't want an optic anymore, you can simply install the slide cap that replicates the normal slide profile.


Bill Drill Results



Performance
Glock 19: 2.80
S&W 929: 3.20
Glock 17: 3.79
S&W 66: 4.51
Draw
Glock 19: 1.74
Glock 17: 1.74
S&W 929: 2.05
S&W 66: 2.18 
Splits
Glock 19: 0.21 
Glock 17: 0.21 
S&W 929: 0.23 
S&W 66: 0.27

Box Drill Results



Performance
Glock 17: 5.63
S&W 66: 6.72
S&W 929: 7.04
Glock 19: 7.19
Draw
Glock 17: 1.88
S&W 929: 2.28
S&W 66: 2.28
Glock 19: 2.45
Splits
Glock 17: 0.55 
S&W 66: 0.61 
Glock 19: 0.81 
S&W 929: 0.82 

Bullseye Drill Results



Performance
Glock 17: 5.30
S&W 929: 5.53
S&W 66: 5.65
Glock 19: 6.91
Draw
Glock 17: 2.03
S&W 66: 2.54
S&W 929: 2.78
Glock 19: 3.28
Splits

S&W 66: 0.89
Glock 17: 0.97
Glock 19: 0.98
S&W 929: 1.04

Reload Drill



Performance
Glock 17: 3.52
Glock 19: 4.57
S&W 929: 5.74
S&W 66: 6.42

Draw
Glock 17: 1.35
S&W 66: 1.65
Glock 19: 1.71
S&W 929: 1.79

Splits
Glock 17: 2.17
Glock 19: 3.19
S&W 929: 3.96
S&W 66: 4.77


Iron Sights vs. DeltaPoint Pro


The third goal of the RDSR Project is to compare optic equipped and iron sighted handguns. After comparing the optic data averages with the iron sight averages, it appears there is a slight performance increase with the DeltaPoint Pro over iron sighted handguns in several drills. 
 
  
The Bill Drill is only shot once rather than three times. The data suggests that the Red Dot Sight Automatics (RDSAs) performed better than their iron sighted counterparts. On the other hand, the Red Dot Sight Revolvers (RDSRs) performed worse than the iron sighted revolvers. The S&W 929 and S&W 66 times certainly are comparable, but the penalty time doesn't help.
  

Excusing my performance with the S&W 929, the Box Drill results show a significant advantage to the DPP equipped platforms compared to iron sights. The other test subjects showed a thirteen (13) to sixteen (16) percent increase in speed over traditional sights. This performance increase may justify a red dot sight to those unsure of the benefits of optic equipped handgun.
  
  
The Bullseye Drill results really highlight the advantages of a red dot sight over iron sights. Excluding the Glock 19 performance, both optics equipped revolvers saw a five (5) and percent increase in speed. The Glock 17 saw a seventeen (17) percent increase over the iron sight model. These are significant improvements in speed. I am impressed with these results!
     
  
The Reload Drill is included to determine if the presence of the large DeltaPoint Pro would hinder reload speed. After reviewing the data, I would say that the optic does impact the reload. With the exception of the Glock 17 M.R.A., all of the optic equipped platforms saw increased reload times. These results have me considering how the other, slightly smaller, optics will fair?


Revolvers vs. Automatics


The fourth goal of the RDSR Project is to compare and contrast Red Dot Sight Revolvers (RDSR) with Red Dot Sight Automatics (RDSA). After the first optic and iron sight comparisonthe data gathered suggests that RDSAs have the advantage over RDSRs. This is especially true if a timed reload is included. The lighter trigger pull and simpler reloads will always be an advantage for automatics, but in just the opening shots of a stage, I believe the RDSRs can hold their own. I am looking forward to more data and further comparisons among the platforms.

Conclusions

  


The Leupold DeltaPoint Pro is a big optic, but the features gained from the large size are well worth it. I was a bit worried that the size of the optic would translate to addition recoil on the automatics. Luckily, the felt recoil did not noticeably change when compared to iron sights. The top mounted battery compartment is a great design that does not require the optic to be removed and re-zeroed when a battery change is needed. 

Most of my dot experience thus far has been with larger 6 MOA options, but I decided to try the smaller dot rather than the larger triangle. The 2.5 MOA dot is significantly smaller than other optics I have used in the past. While acclimating to the small dot required a little trigger time, I found myself just as happy with the smaller dot by the end of my testing process. The smaller dot was actually helpful in making accurate head shots in two matches I was able to shoot with the DPP. I even managed to place top 10 for the first time! I really enjoyed this optic and would definitely recommend for revolvers and automatics alike! 

As always, if you have any suggestions for future posts or would like to share your experience on the current topic please post below!